А есть ли шансы с Master of Laws, полученной в США?
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Zsa Zsa | 13.03.2008 | 08031359407
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Доброе время суток! скажите, пожалуйста, а как канадские работодатели отнесутся к российскому юристу, который имеет степень магистра права, полученную в США за 16 месяцев очного обучения (собственно на диплом+стажировка)? Не top U.S. law school, но все же. Плюс более 4х лет работы в Москве в крупных иностранных компаниях? Работаю на английском языке постоянно.
Вот подумываю, а что если иммигрировать...в России страшно встречать старость.
Большое спасибо за отклики!
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Natalie | 13.03.2008 | 080313921nv
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Zsa Zsa
Unfortunately master degree from USA or Canada in that matter, does not give you a right to practice law in Canada. You will have to pass bar exams to practice in Ontario and in order to be eligible to write those exams, you must be a graduate of Ontario LAW school. In NY for example, you can try to pass bar exams without LAW school degree, but NOT in Canada. If you want to be a layer in Canada, you will have to do the following: get you BA degree credited here (because you can't get in to Law school without a bachelor degree) - it is easy to do. 2 Apply for Law school - competition on average is 25 people per one spot and you have to pass LSAT test before applying.
Law school is 3 years, after graduating you will have to pass BAR tests (2 7-hour exam) after that mandatory articling position (you will have to find placement yourself) for 10 months and finally after that you will be excepted to Toronto association of Ontario layers.
The process is long an expensive and there is no way around that. Without that you can work as a consultant, law clerk, head of some sort of immigration department and stuff like that, but you can't be called layer unless you go through the process. So don't be fooled by so-called consultants.
However, the pay and respect that comes with this honorable profession here in Canada, is well worth it.
Everyone knows how much you have to go through and it has many benefits.
Good luck to you.
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Zsa Zsa | 14.03.2008 | 080314924px
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Natalie
Natalie, your reply is truly appreciated!
I totally agree with you that with my LL.M. degree as is, I cannot practice law in Canada. Moreover, I cannot practice law in the U.S. either! However, with that I am still eligible to sit for a bar exam im some U.S. states hat allow foreign lawyers with a U.S. LL.M. degree to sit for a bar. For instance, New York, Illinois and some others. A foreign qualified lawyer with a U.S. LL.M. degree, this is how I am qualified according to the U.S. laws.
My question was whether a LL.M. degree obtained in the U.S. would be recognized as a Canadian LL.M. degree or not? or somehow equal to the Canadian one?
The thing is that in the U.S. I would not have to go to the U.S. law school for 3 years again, due to that degree. Depends on the state, of course.
About the process of crediting a foreign BA - my U.S. law school did the same when admitting me to study for an LL.M.
Of course, with a law degree one can go multiple ways, not necessarily passing the bar and precticing law, as you mentioned. I am just curious :)
Thank you!
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Natalie | 14.03.2008 | 080314890ox
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Zsa Zsa
LLM might be recognized but it will not expedite the process neither you will be allowed to pass BAR. The only benefit - you have more chances to get into law school . LLM in law does not mean that you finished law school here and anyone can obtain it . I think it will make more sense for you to take BAR in USA and practice law there, unless you want to go through law school/articling/bar here. They don't even consider your foreign experience towards the articling time. You must find articling with Canadian firm that is registered to have articling students. I know all that because my husband is a foreign trained layer with years of experience and he had to do it all over again in Canada. He is done already, but it took 4 years for law school and articling. He finished LLM as well after law school. It pays off at the end.
Good think - you can try working part time as law clerk while at school
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Zsa Zsa | 14.03.2008 | 080314963em
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Natalie
You are right that it would make more sense for me to take the U.S. bar, but unfortunately the U.S. does not accept independent immigrants, unlike Canada....otherwise I'd go there. Chances to secure an employment in the US and hope for H1B while being in Moscow are slimmer than slim. :(
Canada looks like the only option where I have real chances to immigrate....
Thank you very much Natalie :)
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Jastin | 18.03.2008 | 080318300bj
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так насколько я понял американского или английского postgraduate Master of Law недостаточно чтобы получить работу в канаде?
а почему?
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Zsa Zsa | 19.03.2008 | 080319073lu
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Jastin
Недостаточно для того, чтобы быть допущенным к экзамену на право заниматься юридической практикой. Канада не приравнивает магистратуру других стран со схожей правовой системой к канадской магистерской степени.
Насколько я поняла, максимум, что может принести такая степень - можно получить определенные credits при обучении на полноценного канадского юриста. Но проходить стандартное обучение на юриста в Канаде придется.
А вот насчет просто ПОЛУЧИТЬ РАБОТУ, как Вы пишете - возможно. Юридическая специальность многолика, и видов работ, которые квалифицированный юрист может выполнять в обществе вообще, гораздо больше, чем мы себе можем представить! Есть масса околоюридических работ, в частности.
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